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Joining Up and Gwen's Wedding

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I had a dream last night that I don't remember much of, and I awoke from it very early this morning and went back to sleep and had another dream, a short one. What I do remember is still very clear even after all day and burning my hand while cooking tonight (yeah, take out those tiny violins..... :wink: )

soooo...... I'm thinking I should post...... because I don't know why I'd dream this..... and I haven't remembered many of my dreams lately, so......

Last night's dream:
My husband and I were in a very big crowd of people, possibly at a church or conference of some kind - it was as I recall standing room only. There was an anouncement that anyone who wanted to "join up" should proceed to the restrooms. Hubby and I decided that we would join (it was either a church or some kind of grass-roots-type organization, not sure what), so we went with the throng of people toward the hallway to find the restrooms, and we were separated.

I found two restrooms that no one else, it seemed, had found. One had two stalls, and the other had one stall. The second seemed to be a ladies' room, so I went in that one. While I was sitting on the toilet, a man came in, someone that I recognized in the dream, and only just now as I type do I realize who (I think) it was. Graphite412, if you are reading this, I think it was Pastor Mike. I saw him because the walls of the stall were only half-walls, and I was very upset that he'd come in there, though I knew that I was somehow sufficiently covered to be modest.

He said that he was supposed to give me "the packet", and he handed it over the stall wall to me. It was a stack of papers about a quarter-inch thick, and it said something about by-laws or constitution on it. On top of the stapled-together packet there was a single sheet of paper that said what time "he" would meet with my husband and what time "she" would meet with me. I have no idea who "he" and "she" were, but the handwriting I recognized in the dream as being that of a boyfriend I had when I was seventeen years old (perhaps my first love, his name was Carlton, and I had turned down his proposal because I felt I was too young to marry, though we didn't break up 'til later....).

I was looking at these materials when I woke up coughing because of sinus drainage. :|


Then after I took some medicine, I dreamed the following:
My friend and sometime ministry-partner Gwen was getting married. I kept seeing her in a white wedding gown and poufy toile veil, very unmistakeable. She's very slim, and I noticed that strongly when I saw her, how pretty she looked in her gown. I knew of course that Gwen is already married, been married for about 18-19 years, and has two kids, but that didn't enter into this dream. I saw her groom a few times as well, but I don't know who he was.

The wedding was to take place in this building that didn't seem exactly a church. In fact as I walked to the building across a large concrete-looking area, Oral Roberts University came to mind. It looked kind of like that place, lots of concrete with inset flowerbeds and uniquely-designed buildings. I was walking behind my prophetic teacher/mentor, and when we got to the building I watched her walk up the stairs. Each step had a blue pool of water set into it, on purpose, and in order to get to the doors one had to step in the pools of water on the way up. My teacher was not happy about this, because she was wearing hose and heels, and she was worried about falling too. I don't remember walking up, but I saw her go in the door.

Then I was inside. The room felt like a lobby of some sort, and there was a small platform set up for the worship team. Gwen was going to lead worship from her trusty Yamaha Motif keyboard :mrgreen:, and it was all set up, everything was set up. The people I normally sing with on the worship team at church (except our normal worship leader Steve) were all there, and as I got my bearings, Ann commented that they had the Avioms available. That's the in-ear moniters - Ann and Gwen like them and I don't really like them. :roll: I laughed happily because I noticed that there were no cords attached, and we would be using regular moniters.

The service was about to begin, and we were all in our places, Gwen all decked out in her wedding gown and her groom down on the floor. Donna picked up her microphone, and then I noticed I didn't have one. Steve appeared and was about to hand me one that was on the floor, but it was a condensor mike. There were two condensors on the floor near me. Steve and I were shaking our heads, because we knew those would not work. I had seen a cordless (which by the way is what gets handed to people when they come up during worship at my church with a word from the Lord - it was that exact microphone) on the other side of Gwen, and I was about to grab that one when I woke up.

I know this is odd - it almost seems literal or something because it was so realistic - but I think it means something......


Any thoughts on either dream?

blessings
tal
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Today I went with a group of people from four churches or so on a "walk for Jesus" through the town where we go to church, complete with banners and a small motorcade. Afterward we went to one of the churches, and people from that church and ours sang some songs, and there were some testimonies. When I arrived at the church I went to the restroom, and there was a half-wall by the toilet. That reminded me of the dream. And then when I sang with a small group, it was the people who I normally sing with on the worship team at church, only Steve didn't sing. There was one microphone, and we let Donna have it, because she doesn't sing as loud. :| Gwen went on the walk, but she didn't play her keyboard with us, certainly not in a bridal gown, lol! Afterward I checked out the keyboard that belonged to the player at that church - it was a nice Roland with weighted keys. It's odd that there were some things that lined up with that second dream, but.....

*insert smilie with ??? over its head here, lol*

blessings
tal
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some questions

were you or Carlton saved when you where dating?
What was the overall mood of the dream?
Did you know what hour you woke from the dream?
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were you or Carlton saved when you where dating? yes, we even went street-witnessing together. :D
What was the overall mood of the dream? hmm, I was kind of excited in both dreams, like something wonderful was happening or about to happen.
Did you know what hour you woke from the dream? I awoke from the first dream at around four a.m., I think, but I'm not sure exactly.
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Talitha, what I get about your two dreams is that they are both related. The reason why some of the events came to pass in the second dream is, I believe, to draw attention to its importance. I really haven’t got anything for the second dream, but I believe God has given me some insight to your first dream.

I believe that the basis of this dream can be found in Ezra 1
1. Now in the first year of Cyrus king of Persia, that the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah might be fulfilled, the Lord stirred up the spirit of Cyrus king of Persia, that he made a proclamation throughout all his kingdom, and put it also in writing, saying,
2. Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The Lord God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which is in Judah.

The people that are joining up are the ones enlisting in the army of God. Your husband and you were separated because you both have different areas of ministry. You sing and he paints. In this case I don’t believe the restroom just stands for broken idols or uncleanness. There were two restrooms for two separate choices but you chose the one that looked like a women’s restroom. That changed the outcome of the situation. Michael Stith is a worship leader to you guys in your area, this is how you two are related in ministry. The half stall I believe represents a broken wall specifically the dung gate. The dung gate (see scripture below) separated Israel from the trash in the valley to Tophet. This is an area that children were sacrificed to idols through fire. Joshiah destroyed this area and made it a dung heap. See the scripture below. The papers Mike gave you represent the authority/decree such as the scripture in Ezra 1, which is to rebuild the wall. Carlton’s name means from the Town of Free men. There is someone from “the Town of Free men” that can set you up for the meeting for the “he and she.” I believe the “he” and “she” are real people that you are supposed to meet. I wouldn’t know who though. I believe that you have a release for building walls to protect the church from idolatry through your worship that you do, and that is what I believe is the basic message of the dream.

2 Kings 23:10
10. And he defiled Topheth, which is in the valley of the children of Hinnom, that no man might make his son or his daughter to pass through the fire to Molech.

In Nehemiah 3:13 it states:
13. The valley gate repaired Hanun, and the inhabitants of Zanoah; they built it, and set up the doors thereof, the locks thereof, and the bars thereof, and a thousand cubits on the wall unto the dung gate.
14. But the dung gate repaired Malchiah the son of Rechab, the ruler of part of Bethhaccerem; he built it, and set up the doors thereof, the locks thereof, and the bars thereof.

Dung-gate
(Neh. 2:13), a gate of ancient Jerusalem, on the south-west
quarter. "The gate outside of which lay the piles of sweepings
and offscourings of the streets," in the valley of Tophet.

Test all things hold fast to the good (1 Thessalonians 5:21)
this is the first time I've did interpreting on someone else's dream. I believe I heard from the lord, but I would appreciate it if you let me know if this was right on or a bunch of bologna.
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Hey, graphite.... you did an amazing job on this for your first time - for any time! I can tell you prayed and thought and looked at scripture, and that blesses me. I really appreciate it. As I read your interpretation, my spirit lept within me - I actually several years ago did a study on the gates, and I came to the conclusion that the dung gate had to do with intercession and deliverance, etc. (to state it simply and concisely) - so what you said resonated with that. One of the themes I seem to come back to in my songs-of-the-Lord is rejecting other gods and tearing down strongholds!


blessings
tal

PS - Hey, by the way, you know who Gwen is, right?
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Gwen is the one that played the piano when you guys came to Harvest right?
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I just read this to my husband, and he interrupted me at this point:

There is someone from “the Town of Free men” that can set you up for the meeting


He thought that it was significant that one pastor we've struck up a friendship with - and have considered moving to his town to attend his church :shock: where I would be leading worship, probably - is named Jim FREEMAN.

I feel a great connection to him, but not really specifically to his wife. She's sweet, but..... I'm just weird, I don't connect to every "she"......

That could be significant!

We shall see......

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hay I've met that guy. He is awesome! Friendly Pentecostal? I prayed on the top of their new church and have pictures? We took a group from Harvest, and some other friends to pray at that building. I have some awesome friends that go to that church. His name is Jeff and he has a huge beard! That man was sooooooo thankful that we prayed for his church; his spirit bears witness with me. That is awesome!!!! I noticed that a picture of their church was on your guys bulletin board at the last Jesus Celebration. I also mentioned to Pastor Mike that we should invite Friendly Pentecostal to the Jesus Celebrations. Maybe this is also a part of the dream and part of the Pastor Mike connection.

If this isn't the same guys pretend like I'm a huge weirdo.
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If it is the guy that pastors at the Friendly Pentecostal I can ask my friend who the "she" could possibly be. If you don't mind I would also like to relay the dream to him and have him pray with me about it at least if this is the same Freeman. I have to admit Freeman seems to be a humble and broken man. awesome PRAISE THE LORD!

God's got Connections :mrgreen:
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OOHhhhh! I'm sooooo excited! Yes, it's the same man! Our worship team played over there before they bought the new building, and I led worship the night they were going to vote on the purchase. Nathan and I have had dinner with the Freemans, too, they are awesome, and yes, broken people, Praise Jesus! I believe he has an AWESOME destiny in his region.....

I am not sure about your relaying the dream, however, because I have established a confidence with Pastor Jim.

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tal

PS - yeah, Gwen is the keyboard player.
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If I'm correct Florence gave a word that God's glory would hit that church right? I have also had dreams, and I think my friend has had dreams that God was going to do awesome stuff there.

The thing about idolatry could be helping establish a good prophetic leadership team (or something) and keep the false prophetic out. Even at Harvest we at times have had blatant false prophecy happen. Either that or I was way off. If God starts to move there more than He has, which I think He will, false prophets might try to sneak in. Even in the pentecostal revivals in the early 1900s dangerous heresy took many astray.

If a church is established in love for God and maturity it would make it harder for people to become prey to doctrines of demons. If you are supposed to go there it could be that you are called to be a watchman on the wall so to say and also build the wall the rest of the way up. The real prophetic will always expose the false prophetic and if you have prophetic worship the idols of hype and so on will not suffice.

Right now God is moving at our church to establish a prophetic ministry through Kevin, Debbie E, and I. We are far from perfect, but already there has been a significant change. Since the three of us have been given words, so to say, for those of us that can make it, have started to pray together every night for a couple hours. There have been many right on prophetic words, healings, increase of unity.

It could be that sort of thing for you. As far as I know, no one out there moves in the prophetic heavily. God could be trying to establish a ministry. Especially bringing the worshipers into His presence through music
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just like in the OT with Jerico, God uses music for warfare (as you probably already know) and the prophetic. Maybe its a mix. It's not necessarily that Pastor Freeman isn't a man of God, but that he can't be a one man God's army. There needs to be a 5 fold ministry in the church for it to be working properly. But still I can be way off on the part about building wall to protect from idols.
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hey, if anyone else is reading this, lol, it's not an exclusive club, we won't bite! :lol:

If I'm correct Florence gave a word that God's glory would hit that church right? I have also had dreams, and I think my friend has had dreams that God was going to do awesome stuff there. Florence and Ann Graff and I all spoke words that evening..... I've had a vision and a couple of words for Pastor Jim..... God is soooo doing something......

The thing about idolatry could be helping establish a good prophetic leadership team (or something) and keep the false prophetic out. Even at Harvest we at times have had blatant false prophecy happen. Yeah, I am well aware of that. :( :oops: Either that or I was way off. No, you were not way off.

..... the real prophetic will always expose the false prophetic and if you have prophetic worship the idols of hype and so on will not suffice. AMEN

Right now God is moving at our church to establish a prophetic ministry through Kevin, Debbie E, and I. PRAISE GOD! I just love Debbie - and she is actually a friend of my husband's mom's husband (long story). anyway, N just said to tell you how much we love her..... :D We are far from perfect, but already there has been a significant change. ooohhh praise the Lord! that is great to hear! Since the three of us have been given words, so to say, for those of us that can make it, have started to pray together every night for a couple hours. :shock: :D There have been many right on prophetic words, healings, increase of unity. Thanks so much for the good reports! I am grateful to be able to "hear" them!

It could be that sort of thing for you. As far as I know, no one out there moves in the prophetic heavily. Not "heavily" - but there is one guy that I believe God is raising up - actually, LOL, I forgot his name, but the Holy Spirit came upon me in Wendy's one night and I spoke "prophet" over him! :shock: - it was wild...... God could be trying to establish a ministry. Especially bringing the worshipers into His presence through music. Amen - did you see the "Thunder" post in the General Discussions area? :mrgreen: just like in the OT with Jerico, God uses music for warfare (as you probably already know) and the prophetic. hehe.... in the vision I had, I was in their church and threw a battle-axe up to the ceiling and water came pouring down onto the congregation!

....Pastor Freeman..... can't be a one man God's army. There needs to be a 5 fold ministry in the church for it to be working properly.
Amen! And he knows that. ::) He is such a humble man!

But still I can be way off on the part about building wall to protect from idols. It seems to fit. We shall see.

blessings on you
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is the guy you spoke prophet over have a big reddish colored beard and kind of heavy set?