ENGAGED TO A JEWISH BOY
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ENGAGED TO A JEWISH BOY
I had a dream in which I was engaged to this young Jewish man that wore glasses. In the dream, I am a different race. I looked to be ethnical white or possibly Jewish myself and I am younger. Both the young man and myself looked to be in our late teens or early 20's. Additionally, the setting reminded me of the early 1900's and the color was sepia. Somehow I knew this young man was going to propose to me. I was contemplating on whether or not to accept his proposal. I felt if I accept it then I wouldn't have to worry about 2 burdens that I was keeping secret. One burden was a large student loan and I cannot recall the other. By marrying the guy I would be able to pay it off and not have to worry about explaining it.
In the dream, I was keeping this from my late-mother. Anyway, the guy gives me this weird looking engagement ring that is worth $10000. It was weird in the fact it was not the usual engagement ring. It was brass in color and the gem itself was oval shaped and clear colored. It had this multicolor pattern on the inside; reminded me of paisley. I recall the young man and his father was talking about the value of the ring and something else I could not recall.
While they were talking, I inspected the ring closely. The gem was like a stone that was made into jewelry. (If you go to any arts and craft store you can find these). I wondered something that look so simplistic was worth so much money. There is more to this dream but cannot recal it.
In the dream, I was keeping this from my late-mother. Anyway, the guy gives me this weird looking engagement ring that is worth $10000. It was weird in the fact it was not the usual engagement ring. It was brass in color and the gem itself was oval shaped and clear colored. It had this multicolor pattern on the inside; reminded me of paisley. I recall the young man and his father was talking about the value of the ring and something else I could not recall.
While they were talking, I inspected the ring closely. The gem was like a stone that was made into jewelry. (If you go to any arts and craft store you can find these). I wondered something that look so simplistic was worth so much money. There is more to this dream but cannot recal it.
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Could there be a reason God might give you an historical insight? The sepia seems a strong definer of time and setting.
The combination of jewelry and Jewish heritage reminds me of Amsterdam, where the diamond trade took off. (London stores, India mines, Portuguese trade too.)
"Hasidic Judaism was founded by Polish (now Ukrainian) Rabbi 'Ba'al Shem Tov', aka 'Israel ben Eliezer' (1698-1760) in a time when European Jews were facing increasing hostility and pressure from the "Cossacks' Uprising" in Ukraine."
Looks like a good time to launch a little research into the history.
The combination of jewelry and Jewish heritage reminds me of Amsterdam, where the diamond trade took off. (London stores, India mines, Portuguese trade too.)
"Hasidic Judaism was founded by Polish (now Ukrainian) Rabbi 'Ba'al Shem Tov', aka 'Israel ben Eliezer' (1698-1760) in a time when European Jews were facing increasing hostility and pressure from the "Cossacks' Uprising" in Ukraine."
Looks like a good time to launch a little research into the history.
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Hi Newbie,
Two things stood out to me.
1. The conditions under which you were accepting the proposal. You were keeping the debt burden a secret and there was another secret. Both things could be remedied by the marriage.
Is there something going on in your waking life that could be remedied if you were to marry not necessarily a man, but perhaps an idea or plan with someone else's? It would be a blessing to them and you.
2. You were keeping it a secret from your late-mother.
Just food for thought.
Will pray for God to give you revelation on this.
Marla
Two things stood out to me.
1. The conditions under which you were accepting the proposal. You were keeping the debt burden a secret and there was another secret. Both things could be remedied by the marriage.
Is there something going on in your waking life that could be remedied if you were to marry not necessarily a man, but perhaps an idea or plan with someone else's? It would be a blessing to them and you.
2. You were keeping it a secret from your late-mother.
Just food for thought.
Will pray for God to give you revelation on this.
Marla
If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, you can ask what you desire, and it shall be done for you. (John 15:7)
Thank you Lord for working things out for me!
Thank you Lord for working things out for me!
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Newbie,
With all the details you've listed I would gather that the dream is speaking of a past time where you may have been presented with an opportunity to better some aspect of your life. Maybe this opportunity is still in your mind and you are having doubts about whether you should still take advantage of it.
You didn't realize the value of whatever the opportunity or benefit would give you. Looks can be deceiving and it can be true that sometimes we don't realize the value of a blessing when we're given it.
With all the details you've listed I would gather that the dream is speaking of a past time where you may have been presented with an opportunity to better some aspect of your life. Maybe this opportunity is still in your mind and you are having doubts about whether you should still take advantage of it.
You didn't realize the value of whatever the opportunity or benefit would give you. Looks can be deceiving and it can be true that sometimes we don't realize the value of a blessing when we're given it.
"The grass withers, the flower fades, but the Word of our God stands forever." Is 40:8
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The "union"/marriage would be a type of "brass ring" for you. It would save you from debt and solve your problems (with no mention of love or emotions). Sounds like a compromise you may be tempted to make...an "easy way out".
The reference to the old sepia days and Jewish customs/traditions(old money/wealthy) may point to arranged marriages for reasons other than love. He is wearing glasses, and this points to a wealthy and wise benefactor.
Could you Goggle this; "aurora borealis crystal" and tell us if this is the stone in the ring? The oval shape reminds me of an egg (a new beginning/fresh start)
The reference to the old sepia days and Jewish customs/traditions(old money/wealthy) may point to arranged marriages for reasons other than love. He is wearing glasses, and this points to a wealthy and wise benefactor.
Could you Goggle this; "aurora borealis crystal" and tell us if this is the stone in the ring? The oval shape reminds me of an egg (a new beginning/fresh start)
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UHW, no it was more in the style of this but clear: http://www.bestcrystals.com/html/jewelr ... AMB74b.jpg
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The funny thing is that even in the dream, I was thinking to myself about marrying without love. I was really weighing my options, the pros and cons of this marriage. In one regards I would be free of no longer keeping this burden. On the other hand, I was not sure about marrying this guy, especially since he was a stranger and there was no love there.underhiswing wrote:The "union"/marriage would be a type of "brass ring" for you. It would save you from debt and solve your problems (with no mention of love or emotions). Sounds like a compromise you may be tempted to make...an "easy way out".
The reference to the old sepia days and Jewish customs/traditions(old money/wealthy) may point to arranged marriages for reasons other than love. He is wearing glasses, and this points to a wealthy and wise benefactor.
Could you Goggle this; "aurora borealis crystal" and tell us if this is the stone in the ring? The oval shape reminds me of an egg (a new beginning/fresh start)
What was weird was hearing his father's voice, yet not actually seeing him. I have had that voice before in my dreams and it is usually the Father giving direction.
Simply put I am baffled as to what it could all mean. Another key in this and I should have added to the dream, is that me and the guy was sitting o the floor of a room in an unfamiliar place. We sat with our legs tucked under us. The room was simple with nothing standing out about it. It felt as though it was a part of a house, yet it felt as though it was a part of a shop or store with glass counter's.
I did looked up paisley and see it is derived from Scottish literally mean church. The pattern inside the ring was very distinctive. Also I recalled that in my mind, I said to myself it looked like one of the rings that I handmade for my MIL for Christmas, which is true.
The ring was very simplistic and inexpensive looking; yet it held beauty. However, it did not looked to be worth the price of 10 grand.
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The funny thing is that even in the dream, I was thinking to myself about marrying without love. I was really weighing my options, the pros and cons of this marriage. In one regards I would be free of no longer keeping this burden. On the other hand, I was not sure about marrying this guy, especially since he was a stranger and there was no love there.underhiswing wrote:The "union"/marriage would be a type of "brass ring" for you. It would save you from debt and solve your problems (with no mention of love or emotions). Sounds like a compromise you may be tempted to make...an "easy way out".
The reference to the old sepia days and Jewish customs/traditions(old money/wealthy) may point to arranged marriages for reasons other than love. He is wearing glasses, and this points to a wealthy and wise benefactor.
Could you Goggle this; "aurora borealis crystal" and tell us if this is the stone in the ring? The oval shape reminds me of an egg (a new beginning/fresh start)
What was weird was hearing his father's voice, yet not actually seeing him. I have had that voice before in my dreams and it is usually the Father giving direction.
Simply put I am baffled as to what it could all mean. Another key in this and I should have added to the dream, is that me and the guy was sitting o the floor of a room in an unfamiliar place. We sat with our legs tucked under us. The room was simple with nothing standing out about it. It felt as though it was a part of a house, yet it felt as though it was a part of a shop or store with glass counter's.
I did looked up paisley and see it is derived from Scottish literally mean church. The pattern inside the ring was very distinctive. Also I recalled that in my mind, I said to myself it looked like one of the rings that I handmade for my MIL for Christmas, which is true.
The ring was very simplistic and inexpensive looking; yet it held beauty. However, it did not looked to be worth the price of 10 grand.
I will respond to everyone as I chew more on this!
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Thank you Bella, I see the kits all the time in arts and crafts store but familiar with the name of it. This is the 3rd time in a few months in regards to wedding bands. This dream I am having a very hard time understanding it and trying to understand what it pertains to. The only thoughts is a commitment and it may pertain to that. Also not understanding why I am a completely different race; I have had this before but not understanding it
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Newby,
That is an amber stone in your picture. They are beautiful, and you are right they are not expensive. Amber is petrified tree pitch and comes from the Baltic area, and used to be worn by nobility. You said it was clear, and yet it had a pattern to it...am I the only one confused?? Does that mean it was faceted?
The Jewish boy (if his father is Our Father) could still represent old ways/old laws/old traditions. What was the father talking to you about? If you don't k now, what did you feel when he was speaking?
You keeping this debt (whatever it represents) from your mom (who you seem to dream about). That means that you are hiding something from someone intimate in relation to you...maybe a spiritual mentor??
The sitting in a shop on the floor indicates a friendly comfortable exchange. The old fashioned (glass cases) store represents choices to be made.
Don't feel obligated to answer this, but why does it bother you that you are not of the same race?
I think the dream may become clearer if you step back and view it as a whole painting...disconnect from it and see it at face value. See what is there, and what is not.
That is an amber stone in your picture. They are beautiful, and you are right they are not expensive. Amber is petrified tree pitch and comes from the Baltic area, and used to be worn by nobility. You said it was clear, and yet it had a pattern to it...am I the only one confused?? Does that mean it was faceted?
The Jewish boy (if his father is Our Father) could still represent old ways/old laws/old traditions. What was the father talking to you about? If you don't k now, what did you feel when he was speaking?
You keeping this debt (whatever it represents) from your mom (who you seem to dream about). That means that you are hiding something from someone intimate in relation to you...maybe a spiritual mentor??
The sitting in a shop on the floor indicates a friendly comfortable exchange. The old fashioned (glass cases) store represents choices to be made.
Don't feel obligated to answer this, but why does it bother you that you are not of the same race?
I think the dream may become clearer if you step back and view it as a whole painting...disconnect from it and see it at face value. See what is there, and what is not.
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Hello UHW, it was not amber, I just used that picture to give an idea of what I meant by the style. The stone was like those glass stones with an object within it. https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/ ... r2=piv-webunderhiswing wrote:Newby,
That is an amber stone in your picture. They are beautiful, and you are right they are not expensive. Amber is petrified tree pitch and comes from the Baltic area, and used to be worn by nobility. You said it was clear, and yet it had a pattern to it...am I the only one confused?? Does that mean it was faceted?
The Jewish boy (if his father is Our Father) could still represent old ways/old laws/old traditions. What was the father talking to you about? If you don't k now, what did you feel when he was speaking?
You keeping this debt (whatever it represents) from your mom (who you seem to dream about). That means that you are hiding something from someone intimate in relation to you...maybe a spiritual mentor??
I think the dream may become clearer if you step back and view it as a whole painting...disconnect from it and see it at face value. See what is there, and what is not.
The father was not talking to me but to his son and it was in regards to the price of that ring. There was more to the conversation but cannot recall it because I was focused on the ring.
In regards to my mother, that portion is odd to me. My mother passed away 2 weeks before last Thanksgiving and our relationship was strained at best. We communicated but we were not close. So that is why she is out of place in the dream. I did not see her but knew she was near by. Thank you again and will continue to sort this one out!
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The young Jewish boy could represent Jesus/Son. Your pending marriage could be part of your spiritual/emotional commitment. Is there an aspect that you are keeping under wraps from the Lord....maybe an area that you haven't allowed Him into yet, and that may be why the love is absent in the dream..(not meaning of course that you don't love Him, but that you are not consciously letting His love enter into the area you are hiding/protecting)? Could that place be your "not so good relationship" with your mother...is there peace there now, or are you stuffing that in a corner and not setting it wide open at His feet?
He has paid the price, and it was high. You are worth every stripe and blow to Him. Are you feeling like the ring? The brass is costume jewelry metal...not worth much...why was it inexpensive brass? What you saw hidden in the stone, could it be symbolic of what you are hiding in your heart?....could your relationship with mom be your debt you still owe her and Him? Do you feel less valuable, or not quite qualified, to Him because of it? Your thoughts were even drawn to your MIL, and that makes it a double symbol of "mother", a good indicator.
No need to answer these questions, just things to mull.
Blessings to you, and prayers for healing of all of your memories of mom. Mothers are not perfect, and I imagine that she loved you the best she knew how.
He has paid the price, and it was high. You are worth every stripe and blow to Him. Are you feeling like the ring? The brass is costume jewelry metal...not worth much...why was it inexpensive brass? What you saw hidden in the stone, could it be symbolic of what you are hiding in your heart?....could your relationship with mom be your debt you still owe her and Him? Do you feel less valuable, or not quite qualified, to Him because of it? Your thoughts were even drawn to your MIL, and that makes it a double symbol of "mother", a good indicator.
No need to answer these questions, just things to mull.
Blessings to you, and prayers for healing of all of your memories of mom. Mothers are not perfect, and I imagine that she loved you the best she knew how.
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I was in a store Monday, and someone I don't know showed me a ring her husband bought her, and it was an intensely-multicolored opal in a brass/gold setting. I couldn't help but think of your dream.It was brass in color and the gem itself was oval shaped and clear colored. It had this multicolor pattern on the inside; reminded me of paisley.... like those glass stones...
What's odd about the opal (your link had some opals in it) -- they are not as precious as diamonds, and would not bring that high a price. So you'd have to ask if there was a value fluctuation, or deception, or personal value to the ring.
This is a good indication that the dream was not really about you. Are there people you should be praying for, or history you should be digging into? God sometimes shows us thing through research and exploration.In the dream, I am a different race. I looked to be ethnical white or possibly Jewish myself and I am younger. Both the young man and myself looked to be in our late teens or early 20's. Additionally, the setting reminded me of the early 1900's and the color was sepia.
Maybe you will discover something about your family lineage that will turn out to be important for healing or knowledge.
This article brings out one historic story about Jewish gem trade.
http://www.gem-diamonds.com/news/new-ph ... amantaires
As said above, a dream marriage is not necessarily between individuals -- it often symbolizes agreements between large organizations.
In the dream, you were hesitant to merge.