committing

[WaitingforHim]

I am in church talking to some people. I see a woman whose name means "pleasure" and I walk up to her. She asks me if I will marry her...I knew this meant "committ" and I said yes.

As I walked away I felt the HolySpirit tell me I needed to tell her I can't committ because I am married already and it would be adultery. I walked up to her and told her what I felt the HolySpirit say. She was very angry and I could tell by the look in her face that she may come against me.

I explained to her that she was married and so was I ..meaning we both had our committments. I told her I wanted to help her but couldn't. Then she asked me why I committed in the first place and I said "Its like prophecy, sometimes you feel something so strong in your heart and you believe you are hearing the Lord but really you are prophecying out of your heart..not from the spirit"...and she walked away..I was worried about her..

I turned and there was a friend of mine standing there watching the whole thing and she hugged me and said, You did the right thing..don't worry about it.

WFH

[talitha]

I just think this has to do with not making commitments and covenants lightly - and then sticking by them when we do make them. Sounds like the Lord is teachig you many things, sis!
blessings
tal

[WaitingforHim]

Yeah...always..hahaha.
I am looking for confirmation from the Lord in this dream because
I although I agree with what you see I am thinking this is specifically about a certain decision..but I need to be sure I am hearing right..

Thanks sis.
Hugs.
WFH

[shine]

. . . and I said "Its like prophecy, sometimes you feel something so strong in your heart and you believe you are hearing the Lord but really you are prophecying out of your heart..not from the spirit"...
WFH

hmmm, did this understanding 1st come to you in the dream. . .or is this how you've discerned all along?

interesting either way. . .but was this dream teaching this to you, or validating what you are learning or already know?

[WaitingforHim]

I took that part of the dream as an example to explain to the person how someone could make a mistake in making a commitment...How they may have felt that the Lord was saying this to them because it was in their heart to do so...but in actuality it was just from their heart..not from the Lord...I do know this to be true..but I also know the word warns us of prophets who prophecy out of their own hearts..

I'm not sure why you wanted to know that but I hope I hope it helps.
WFH

[manicmusician]

I think we need to be clear on the distinctions between commitments and prophecy aside from whatever symbolism might be at work in the dream.

A true prophet of the Lord will speak only what he or she hears from God, and nothing they say will contradict the Word of God, as God cannot be divided against himself...Matthew 12:25

As far as personal commitments, they don't really come with a scriptural "out clause", as God takes them very seriously and expects us to follow through on our vows, promises, commitments...our word. Numbers 30, Judges 11, Proverbs 20:25, Ecclesiastes 5:4-6, and in the new testament we're instructed that no man begins a process without first counting the cost to see if he can complete it. I think the gist of all of these scriptures is that any personal commitment should be entered into prayerfully, thoughtfully, and carefully, with the intent of completing it, because not only is it made to man, but also to God..."in as much as you've done to the least of these"...

Not that any of this has to do with the dream above, but just some things I wanted to add.

[WaitingforHim]

I would like to keep the comments to the dream about the "dream interpretation" please...

I am not trying to be mean, but I don't want to go into a teaching on prophecy or commitments here...I simply wanted to post the dream in hopes of confirmation to the interpretation.

I understand the importance of both prophecy and commitments, but in this dream I don't believe that its about prophecy nor do I believe that its about the importance of commitments...I am seeing that this may be about "facing" up to someone whom you may have commited to already and one that may be a mistake...In the dream the Holyspirit was guiding me to break off the commitment, not follow through with it...The commitment wasn't made in a bad spirit either..it was made out of the heart...to help the person..but wasn't the Lord's best plan it seemed.

Thanks
In His Love.
WFH

[Joy2dream]

Hey Waiting,
Here's what I am seeing, consider with prayer:

I am in church talking to some people.

Seeing this as a place of fellowship or a congregation.

I see a woman whose name means "pleasure" and I walk up to her.

Seeing this woman as something or someone that you wanted to commit to because it gave you pleasure to do so.

She asks me if I will marry her...I knew this meant "committ" and I said yes.

When we marry we come together with someone or something; to unite. I believe you agreed because to do so was a pleasure to you.

As I walked away I felt the HolySpirit tell me I needed to tell her I can't committ because I am married already and it would be adultery. I walked up to her and told her what I felt the HolySpirit say. She was very angry and I could tell by the look in her face that she may come against me.

I am seeing this as you are already committed to the Lord and even though this other thing/person may be of pleasure to you it is not for you to do and would be going against what the Holy Spirit is requiring of you for now. This also could be a warning as the woman becomes angry and you think she could come against you now.

I explained to her that she was married and so was I ..meaning we both had our committments. I told her I wanted to help her but couldn't.

I believe this part may indicate that you both have a place and a committment but it is not for you to work together yet.

Then she asked me why I committed in the first place and I said "Its like prophecy, sometimes you feel something so strong in your heart and you believe you are hearing the Lord but really you are prophecying out of your heart..not from the spirit"...and she walked away..I was worried about her..

I totally understand what you're saying here. You are relating to the woman that the desires of your heart are good toward her and you want to be in agreement and unity with her because it gives your heart pleasure. At the first you agreed because it seemed good to do so but when prompted by the Holy Spirit you knew you had listened with your heart and not with your spirit.
By the way, people do and will prophecy out of their hearts and not listen to what Holy Spirit speaks to their spirit.

I turned and there was a friend of mine standing there watching the whole thing and she hugged me and said, You did the right thing..don't worry about it.

I think this is reassuance that you did the right thing.


Interp: I feel like this dream is the Lord leading you from something that isn't His will for you at this present time, even though it is something that would be a pleasure for you to do. It is also a word for us to listen with our spirit to the Holy Spirit and to keep our heart issues out of our prophetic words spoken. It is a teaching in a dream, if you will.

No doubt if any of us are to step out and prophecy we will make mistakes and listening to our heart and not the Holy Spirit will be one of them. We must give grace for if we don't we will not go forward.

Love to ya,
Joy

[WaitingforHim]

Thanks sis for taking the time on this. You confirmed identically what I received from the Lord. That was my confirmation. I don't however know what decision it is that that is giving me pleasure that I can't be a part of ....I was hoping it was hiding in there somewhere..hahahah...but I will continue to press into the Lord because there is a commitment that I was praying about leaving...the only thing is it didn't give me too much pleasure..but I was wanting to do this to help someone. Everything seems to fit with this situation..but I will pray to make sure..because it could be something in the future. errr..

And I agree with you sis about Prophecy. 100%. I have been taught so much from the Lord in that area. Sometimes through the school of hard knocks! haha. I thank the Lord that He is increasing all of our discernment in that area. One time I was in a group setting where someone prophecied out of their heart and you could right away pick up it wasn't from the Spirit of the Lord...She was holding anger in her heart and was so strong in her feelings that it came forth out of her mouth as a "Thus sayeth the Lord" and brought much condemnation and grief. And I have also seen the other case as well, where prophecy has came forth with good intentions to love someone but it was from their heart and not the Lord... Oh Lord that we may know you more..that we may come into your presence as Moses did, face to face and walk away transformed...that we may only hear your voice...

Thanks again my sister.
Love to you.
WFH

[shine]

. . .

I'm not sure why you wanted to know that but I hope I hope it helps.
WFH

Cuz my personatlity is such that I love knowing how people come . . .to learn directly from God (like if you understood this now, only because of the dream) to know things. . .or how people learn to build things. . .it is just something in me.
With that said, with the way you answered, I believe with you that this was validation concerning your help/obligation. That because you know this to be true already (that it was more from your heart) - This was your confirmation by the Holy Spirit in your dream.

Now the hard part begins. . . Using Love with this person and letting them know. . . May you both be blessed ( or all if it is a few)

[WaitingforHim]

Hahaha..I kinda got that personality too! hahaha

And yes, now is the hard part...but I am trusting the Lord..
Love to you.
WFH